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If you've got a newer mac you can use planetary on the desktop as well. We use an updated version of oasis hosted for @Planetary. There's also patchfox as a good option. And as @Nico says, Perihelion.

I think the manyverse / patchwork issue is related to ebt's vs legacy replication. It doesn't really matter fixing that because the current js releases, manyverse, and planetary are all using ebt now. The ssb-pub doesn't really support ebt either, but with the move to rooms, it's not needed. Planetary is working on an updated pub with a graphql interface for a web viewer which supports both ebt and legacy replication, but it's not really intended to be used a pub which people will join.

Anyway, all of the legacy replication issues with patchwork are moot because we're soon going to be using metafeeds and anybody who uses that will need to upgrade to newer code. That transition is going to the real point where folks need to move on. I think the idea is for a bit to cross post to old feed while also creating the metafeed, i think.

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we’re soon going to be using metafeeds and anybody who uses that will need to upgrade to newer code.

I wouldn't have phrased it like that. @moid, I believe in smooth gradual transitions and as much as possible I try to avoid breaking changes in SSB. The plan that @arj and I have come up in the past months goes as follows:

  • The current normal SSB feeds are called "main" feeds
  • In apps that support it (Manyverse and whoever else uses the SSB JS stack), you'll have a new feed called "root metafeed" which refers to the "main" feed as a subfeed
  • You'll keep publishing post, contact, about etc on the "main" feed as usual, fully compatible with Patchwork
  • You'll also have "index" subfeeds that will have pointers to your posts, contacts, abouts such that other peers who support it can replicate these index subfeeds. This allows them to do partial replication. e.g. they can replicate your abouts without replicating anything else you post
  • (Private) Group content is going to be published on a subfeed under your root metafeed, such that Patchwork won't be able to see it or understand it. I don't think this is a breaking change to SSB, because the Public side will keep working as usual. We will just have new "private spaces" that are only accessible with apps that support it.
  • For as long as Patchwork meets a need that Manyverse doesn't meet, Manyverse will keep publishing Public messages on the "main" feed and updating the index subfeeds
  • When it's clear that most people are ready to leave Patchwork to Perihelion/Manyverse/Patchfox/Planetary, then we can come up with a plan to let go of the "main" feed and begin publishing Public messages on dedicated subfeeds

I can't speak for what other apps will do, but I'll choose to preserve main-publishing in Manyverse while there's still (say) >=25% of SSB users using Patchwork or similarly aged software. I believe this will be at least 1 year, maybe 2 or more.

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