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@customdesigned This is the first I have heard of roads such as this! clearly this becomes more viable with transponder technology. I can think of one toll road in NZ and a bridge (but they are government projects). It will be interesting to see how this develops.

I would acknowledge a spectrum of "property" at the extreme right is maybe absolute monarchy, and at the extreme left is possessions. Like, your clothing. It's yours because you have it. If you pick up a rock it's now your possession. There are many layers inbetween those two extremes, like, I have a bicycle, and I think of my self as "owning" it, but the state doesn't know (or care to be honest) that I own the bike. It continues to be in my possession only because I have chained it up. A car, however, is protected by paperwork. since it's mobile like a bicycle, it's easy to steal a car, but it's not easy to sell the car because of the paperwork. If you brought a stolen car, and get caught with it it's a big problem. There are other ways around this for thiefs though, like steal whole cars and sell them as parts. This works particularily well for motorcycles as they are small, and the parts are expensive.

In Japan, they actually have a paperwork registration system for bicycles and you are in trouble if you have an unregistered bicycle, I'm not sure if I'd prefer that.

The nice thing about possessions, is that it disincentivises accumulating many of them. I couldn't sensibly protect 100 bicyles, so I only have how many I need.

But state enforcement of property makes owning many many things feasible (note: enforcement is theirfore a social good from a many-property owner's perspective) this tends to mean that relatively few people end up owning almost everything, and everyone else scrambling for the scraps, rather than everyone possessing what they need.

In different ages and places, different forms of things can be property. Currently, it's possible to own certain forms of ideas, previously you could own other people. The idea of owning land is widespread, but there are often restrictions as to what you are legally entitled to do with it. But it hasn't always been this way -- maybe you'd own family's hut, but the land belongs to the whole tribe. The point being, property is constructed, not natural.

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