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The worst thing would be for this network to get flooded with pepes

I use cjdns, but I've mostly backed off from the Hyperboria community since it got flooded with pepes.

Yep, that's why I was declaring the open utopia of ssb "officially" cancelled...

I still operate public peers for the Hyperboria network, but I don't participate in the open social forums. I used to run one of the irc servers. Now I'm in only one irc channel with three other people I've known for at least 4 years. I was also responsible for forking the irc network, and taking the majority of the non-pepes to the new network. From what I've heard the old network is a pretty terrible place to hang out.

There are differences between ssb and cjdns, primarily in terms of visibility (ssb is social, cjdns is at the inter-networking layer). As long as there are open pubs, these people are going to be on the network, so the focus should probably be on keeping them as many hops away as possible. I have an ssb pub that I maintain, but I've never posted a large number of invites for exactly this reason. Unfortunately this slows down adoption, but I'd rather move slowly than end up with a toxic community.

I think the main takeaways for me are:

disengage early from trolls

I'm quick to block people. I have my client set to 1 hop, but I believe most clients have that dialed higher. If bad behaviour is close enough that I can see it, that makes me a vector for it to spread to my friends, and probably their friends, and maybe their friends.

ask friends / people we know not to route horrible humans to us

I mentioned this in another thread, I unfollow first, and ask questions later. Unfollowing doesn't mean I don't like the person being unfollowed, rather, it's a means of curating what I see in my feed. Usually I follow up with a private message explaining what came up. If they resolve the situation (talking to the person in question or unfollowing them themself), I'll probably start following them again. The last time I used this strategy, though, I think the block feature wasn't working perfectly, so this might be out of date.

This relates to the point above, though, that if I expect this of other people, I should think about how my feed impacts those around me, and be proactive about maintaining a comfortable space for those I'd like to associate with.

Usually at this point, people object to this approach as thought policing, so I'll just point out that I don't care what people are thinking so much as how it affects me. I also care about how it affects those around me, but to simplify things, I consider that if this network stops being enjoyable, people stop participating as much, or just leave. :+1: for the xkcd comic!

let's get on roleplaying some shitty attacks on the network

I'm not interested in wearing a frog costume, but the main attack vector is the pubs.

  1. identify as someone who you think will be welcomed into the community
    • ssbc is lgbt*-friendly, so a troll might pose as such to get some follows somewhere in the middle of the network
  2. wait until you have a few followers
    • bonus if any of the people only check in every few days, as they will be slow to react to your bad behaviour
  3. start flooding the network with blobs
    • long threads of pepe memes, or similar (take up as much space in the interface as possible)
    • it also takes up disk space and bandwidth, this might be frustrating enough for people that they stop participating in the network
  4. invite your friends
  5. repeat with a new feed on a different pub
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