sunrise choir - 27/09/2018

attendees

checkin
sunrise-choir / ssbrs
- alj: like clear distinctions between specs and rust code
what aljoscha will start on this week?
how do we add new things and get @dominic's approval?
neon / n-api
async monads
reachability in the database
plugins

define the logical data model of ssb messages
define rust traits / abstract apis for dealing with them
- serde
specify and implement legcay json encoding
transitional codec for transport between servers
- subset of cbor
- should this be used for signing?
  - yay: json codec is ugly
  - nay: if we introduce a temporary format and use it to sign / hash messages, it will be around forever
start an official ssb spec
- a hard spec, less fluffy than protocol guide
- able to drill into any part of the protocol and dive deep
- not a linear document from start to end

recent plugin convo: %UyEnqEk...
mik: dominic is worried about us being all specs no code
- maybe trying to nip a divergent spec in the bud
- a perception where we create more work and not do the work
  - even if our perception disagrees
mik: dominic likes negotiation
- choose our battles
- be clear about what is high priority
- be willing to let go of what is not priority
pie: how to explore the problem space without starting an argument
- maybe make it explicit
mik: swallow bits of javascript with native rust
mik: good to build momentum and trust
pie: get on a call with interested parties and make a case
- alj: high-bandwidth conversations are not accessible
  - pie: still has value
  - pie: prioritize notes
- alj: try to do as much as possible in text, not calls

neon looks stale

n-api looks promising

alj: rust has good generic interfaces
- can test against the interfaces directly
- macros for property-based testing of reader / writer
alj: now rust supports afl fuzzer

alj
- is one thing older than another?
- messages are nodes, cypherlinks are edges
- is one node reachable by another node?
mik
- realized value of timestamps: "only fetch content from last month of messages"
- keen for the best of both worlds
  - timestamps are human
  - but time is actually causation