@sunset 19:58 I think the way surrender sounds like "defeat" and "abandonment" in English is part of why I had a resistance to it, and perhaps also this word association made it particularly memorable to see the word in a new way. perhaps transmuting fear of defeat into something else, to a place where those fears are no longer needed

active nihilism is an interesting phrase too .. the idea that nihilism would be associated with hedonism or evil always seemed a bit paradoxical to me too

thanks for the the new italian word