The twitter conversation was feeling ok and respectful but I think it's probably done as a conversation now... I think there's not enough shared care and context to be able to have a constructive conversation.
I thiink there's a dynamic where there's a totally reasonable need to conserve energy and have firm boundaries, and some of what we're talking about with scuttlebutt is straying too far into a grey space that isn't safe or looks like old patterns.
I personally think and hope we're doing and enabling new ways, but perhaps I'm too close and idealising.