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is manyverse less gossipy? I notice it only seems to connect to my pub, and no others. I’m worried about replication

Compared to Patchwork, Manyverse has this thing where it doesn't automatically choose pubs for you. It instead puts "discovered pubs" (from ssb-db) in staged mode (light blue background) and you have to manually click on that and then "Connect" or "Connect and follow". Then, over time you'll have more and more reliable pubs, but only those that you explicitly chose.

You should also try connecting to some rooms, it's nice when you know you're online simultaneously as a friend is, and that friend is syncing directly with you.

Why does the public feed feel so quiet? I’m following my desktop account with hops 2 so I should be seeing heaps, but only seeing occasional updates. Maybe the main feed works differently?

If you're sure you're getting the all the data that you expect to get, it could be a UI subjective effect. @David Gómez and did some great brainstorming on how to reduce the firehose effect and what we came up with were two big UI/UX decisions: (1) on the feed, threads are shown collapsed, with a fixed height for all, (2) all the subthreads are embedded within the root/original thread. The goal was to reduce the firehose effect. I like it a lot. When I use Patchwork, I feel like things are "all over the place". I may see N threads, but in reality they are just subthreads of one original topic. And for each thread I see, it takes all of my screen (a vertical monitor, by the way).

Maybe give it a week more and see if you like the summarized mode?

Do you want input on design / ux @andrestaltz?

Yes! It was built a bit in a hurry, and I have some ideas how to tweak/improve it, so it'll get better soon, and I welcome ideas surrounding it at this stage.

How does unread get tracked?

I would avoid calling it unread, it's just an indicator of "recency". When you refresh the feed, it stores a timestamp in "localStorage". When new messages are synced and come in, those that have arrived after the stored timestamp and indicated with the "recent" blue background. The background disappears with an animation after ~6 seconds (exact same animation and duration for all recent threads).

Wait, what' a room? How do you find them? And how do you make them?

@Entropy, that's quite interesting! I use Manyverse on an iphone with a relatively small capacity (64gb) and I very much like Manyverse not pulling in everything, connecting to everyone around and just replicating super broadly.

I'm also a huge fan of the new rooms idea (and the fact that it is now super stable under higher capacity after last weeks bug fixes to it). The whole point that SSB advertises itself on is to be "decentralized". Pubs tend to become central data-warehouses over time PicoPub sat at 40gb at the end of its life, that was with blops cleaning turned all the way up), while rooms and choosing to connect to people in rooms is more in the spirit of friends/followers directly connecting to each other.

I'm personally starting to regard pubs to be previous-class citizens. We still need to have pubs around for those communities and groups/flocks of users that just like it for its convenience, but Rooms are pretty much Pubs 2.0 in my head. My question would actually be "Is it possible to turn the pesky auto-discovery of pubs off in patchwork?". It's quite annoying to have to block em all one by one in order for them to not connect to me.